Zune > iPod, At Least In My Mind
Nick Bundt | Jun 21, 2009 | 141,146 views | Comments 38
I know, nobody owns a Zune. When it comes to portable music players, it’s all about the iPod. By owning a Zune, I feel as though I’ve become “that guy,” the snotty, pompous, artsy MP3 owner, but despite feeling like the odd man out, there are lot of reasons I love my Zune.
I love how the Zune touchpad operates, over all iPod’s variations. With a second generation Zune I can scrub a list with simple up/down, left/right gestures across the circular touchpad. I scrub and the cursor moves in the direction I indicated, and I can touch the pad to stop on what I want. Then, I click on the pad, and I enter the menu. I feel this is a lot more intuitive than either the circular, round-the-bout touch pad of the Classic and Nano iPods or the latest and lamest reintroduction of touchscreens into the computer field. They sucked when they first came out, and they still suck now.*
What is great about the second generation Zune is that I can turn the scrub feature off if I want some good old-fashion clicking. I can memorize how many clicks I need to get to my favorite artists, so I can somewhat safely operate my vehicle when I’m listening to my Zune through the radio. Not having to look at my MP3 player keeps my eyes on the road.
In addition to having buttons to physically click, I find the graphic user interface of the Zune is nice to look at and incorporates another aspect that seems lost in the iPod, album art. The album art is the dominant image on the screen, and the album lists always contain a small portrait of the image on the left-hand side of the screen. I know iPods do that, but the interface does not incorporate the images as prominently.
One downside of the Zune is compatibility. iPods can sync with iTunes, Winamp, Windows Media Player… etc. The Zune can only connect to the Zune Software. Why not to Windows Media Player is beyond anyone’s guess. However, the Zune software is simple enough to operate, has friends features, and has a browser accessed profile for your sign-in name. These features are genuinely really neat. Since music is loved by so many people, and most people are proud of the music they listen to, having the ability to show off what you have listened to through “Badges” counting who and what albums you listen to seems like a no-brainer for MP3 players. The browser side profile allows people who do not have a Zune to check out what you listen to. Plus, you can even add your friends to your Zune, so the player itself will update your friend’s status, profile, and what they are listening to.
The visualization in the Zune software is a slideshow of album work and the band to which you are currently listening to. The effect can become mesmerizing. You can read bios and see pictures of the band as you’re listening to their music.
So, even though you’re limited to the software you can use to put music on the Zune, the software itself is great, and has an easy-to-use/browse online music library where you can listen to samples and purchase music.
Finally, the wireless feature of the Zune allows you to sync it with your Xbox 360 and experience your Zune’s music and videos on the television. The wireless feature also allows you to sync to your computer wirelessly so that you can purchase music without the need to be linked to your computer. Finally, if you have a radio transceiver for your car, your Zune will automatically sync if your computer is on. Thus, if you so desire, you never have to bring your Zune out of your car. Just make sure its attached to the radio transceiver when you leave the car and any new music to tell your computer to put on the Zune will be there the next time you’re in your car.
I see the appeal in iPods. There is nothing wrong with them. However, given its great features, I will stick to my Zune. You should think about giving them a try yourself.
*I know upcoming Zune HD has a touchscreen. I am (probably) going be unimpressed by the touchscreen just as much as I am other products. Just because a blanket of post-modernism in the consumer world has blinded people into thinking that touchscreens are a new and good idea does not mean that they necessarily are. Perhaps I’ll rant about touchscreens later.
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Another useless article from someone who prolly never owned an iPod. Have fun being that guy, considering the market has a poor amount of compatible accessories and the sales of zunes in general have been quite poor. Wow, you have a 360 and you have enough patience to deal with their stupidity of locking it down to the zune program when WMP would have been a perfect alternative or atleast one they could have added zunish (yes I made up a word) features. That would make you part of a small percentage of zune owners. Which there arent many quoting an article Apple in its latest quarter sold 10.6 million iPods, or more than five times Microsoft’s cumulative sales to date. And iPods click just as well as your zune does and I am use to clicking my way around also. You dont exactly have a volume adjustment on your earbuds either. Oh not friend features, in a world where we are becoming over saturated with how many useless options (facebook & myspace anyone) we have to interact with people, now we can share songs that allow them to be heard 3x before they have to buy. As for your FM syncing, I am sure there are limitations on distance, local fm frequencies and building materials that do not make is as sharp as you make it sound, but if your computer is one wall away from the garage I am sure it works grand. And you can preview music on the touch, afterall every point that iPods have just the same as your zune you are failing to acknowledge, thus using your spin to make the zune look better to the unknowledgeable types out there. Maybe you should rant about that later. Geez!
Ah I also must acknowledge the epic fail of your site ingeneral; maybe icarkits.com should spend their advertising dollars elsewhere since you know, your endorsing a product that even they sell 0 accessories for. I am sure they will love this article when they read it.
:( I rather like my Zune, but the music download program still has a number of bugs. I’ve owned many ipods and never really liked them. It’s too bad the ipod Nazi has to get all butthurt because someone is willing to say hey I like this for X Y and Z. Kelly pull your head out of your butt, not all of us want to be part of your ipod cult dear!
Holy God what an A-hole, calm down Kelly, you don’t need to be a douche with rabies just because somebody likes a Zune more then an IPod. Stupid dick.
My family was sent two mp3 players to test out for my family company’s which deals in massive moving of computer stuff. Apple sent my sister an ipod, I received a Zune. Within 2 weeks, the ipod died due to hardware fail. Ipod was sent back and a new one resent, Zune was chugging along. I ended up buying a 2nd gen Zune just because I liked it so much. I ended up using a lot of features on that Zune, photo album to show my friends, videos to watch at the gym, music to listen to while jogging, radio for work. The interface IS sweet. My sister got along with her new ipod eventually but it took a while. I think she’s happy with that since she’s more or less a couch potato and it works for her. I guess it depends on what your day’s like and what you do with your mp3 player. In the end, I want the touchscreen zune. Oh and Kelly, if the site’s so full of fail, plz stop being first poster, lol, like you’re jumping at the bit to say something, your resentment is delicious.
Octagon,
I welcome any discourse that doesn’t involve a low IQ score and insulting words to my personal character, to which you have only a small view of by my response. Since you obvious cover both of these quite nicely please try again.
As for Nihil, please its time to get ready for school so get of your mommy’s computer before she catches you, you know you cant get picked up by a pedophile on myspace until your homework is done. Its either that or I must wonder if you suffer from a diminished mental capacity since the only bad word you could come up with was butt, make you remember this in confession or the big scary man in the clouds might get angry.
Sorry my butt only hurts when someone (not going to point fingers here), can only argue one side without really acknowledging the other and still sleep at night thinking they do responsible journalism. As for as people responding in such stupid manners it makes me trouser snort with joy :P I am sure you make you parents proud of your vocabulary which obviously has such depth and range.
As for Jenny whos reply I thought has some intelligence in it until I read it had that is have to wonder if she just hoping on the anti-nazi iPod bandwagon.
Hmm what happened to the 1st Zune, see how much people like to leave out information if it means saving from making their story look the way they want. As for the iPod crashing, unfortunate as it is it was most likely a manufacturing error and I am sure if we combed the droves of zune owners I think we would find some. I am sure Apple just wasn’t out to get you. Atleast what Apple puts out there is atleast working for the majority unlike the competition which would sell a 3 legged table if they could … Vista anyone? And maybe I am just hating on microsoft, but to your surprise I have that operating system and hate it, was forced into when my computer crashed with Windows XP and all I had was the upgrade disc. Atleast Apple sends you the disc of what is currently on your computer not the hack job of an OS that they think you might like.
As for being the 1st poster, um did you check that time stamp honey? I am sorry I forgot to wait my proper turn in line since this site or any site for that matter is generally a 1st come 1st served basis in terms of commenting. Maybe because your number 4 and your still waiting for your morning coffee your the one oozing resentment. Now be a good mother, eat you vicodin and get Nihil ready for school.
Kelly LEAVEEEE please. You’re really annoying. I probably won’t check back on this site so please don’t leave a 3 page long response. No one cares about you
Seems like Kelly has had a bad experience with Microsoft thus justifying all her opinions of their products on this sole experience. Also appears like the basis of argument is “No one has one, i can’t but cool cases, therefore they are inferior”.
I like my Zune, and I’ve had both Zune and Ipod (2 ipods, infact). I didn’t get it to be non-conformist, I got it for value for money. It works well, easy navigation, sweet battery life (in comparison). So shoot me.
Just had to chime in and agree with the Zune love. I still have my 1st-gen 30gb Zune and I use it daily. I’ve never had trouble finding accessories for my Zune, but then again I shop almost exclusively online so that has helped.
Before we got our Zunes my husband and I looked into iPods…even several years back neither of us liked the flimsy, lightweight construction of the iPod. It’s not ‘hip’ to like a chunkier piece of hardware, but we enjoy the weight of a well put-together piece of technology.
Love the Zune, never had a problem – and incidentally, it is nice to know that I am not the only one out here who is puzzled over why anyone would want a semi-responsive touch screen over the good old-fashioned click of a button.
And Kelly? You’re just pissed because Steve Jobs declined your liver.
Actually Kelly does have some valid points.
I use to have a Zune until I realized the social aspect of it is only useful if other friends of yours have a Zune & when I got a car that had an iPod compatible dock, which I didnt have an option to change to an Zune dock.
It was easy to switch all my cds to iTunes, but Zune with their subscription based service I could only keep 60 songs to a tune of over 100 bucks after taxes … if I actually went with iTunes in the first place I would have had 91 songs and been able to keep them all. Sorry but the numbers don’t lie.
And let me repeat what it said just below of the form to reply “Be nice. Keep it clean. Stay on topic. No spam.” it looks like no one here really met that objective and I am surprised there isn’t a moderator to remove the less desirable ones. I am sure there is a time and place to tell someone “No one cares about you” but its not here & I only use that one since it is the only one I can still see in the view point of my screen.
Kelly, it is a product review. Maybe you ought to seek counseling to deal with your obvious hatred and resentment. Better yet, just slink off under your rock and quit posting.
Beyond that, I’ve had two Zunes, first gen and 2nd. I love the interface. With 2nd gen wireless sync I don’t have to carry it out of my car, and the first gen Zune is now equivalent to the 2nd gen feature set. I have a detached garage and the car is roughly 150 ft. from the PC. It works fine. Both Zunes have been working as new since they were purchased.
The Zune pass, at $15 a month, lets me download and play EVERYTHING I want without separate puurchases. I have over 1500 CDs worth of music on the Zune that I play whenever I like.
Yes you reasons for liking it are decent but Mike I have a few questions to your rant, but how long have you had your subscription? how much have you paid? & if you canceled tomorrow, how many songs do you keep? Last time I checked the music industry stood on selling music, not leasing it out the majority of your library only to keep a select few when your done with it.
I & others here would like to see a comparative of music, video, podcasts, audiobooks and games (which Zune doesn’t cover under the subscription btw) on both stores which would be much more informed then. A good and easy example are games; a while ago Apple surpassed 1 billion applications sold, which Zune has 5 for sale which are only games & I guess checkers must sell like hot cakes. They will need 200,000,000 Zune owners to make this feat possible unless they up the stakes.
Microsoft is just trying to play catch up really and they are not doing a good job at it for the most part. They once stated they didn’t want in on the digital player market because it wasn’t profitable. A company that has that much insight spends more time chewing their foot than making an accurate view of a money making market.
Kelly, you’re outnumbered for once. Go away, huh?
For the record, I own a 30GB Zune and an 8GB iPhone- the iPhone for Pandora and apps, and the Zune for music. It just sounds better. Keep up the love.
I got my zune back before the iphone and ipod touch due to the larger screen size and I have to say that I will never understand how anyone got by on the smaller screens.
I loved my zune back then and laughed at the ipod users and their tiny screens. Then the iphone and ipod touch came out. I ended up with an iphone, and my zune was given away after collecting dust in a drawer.
As for the “Touch Screens Suck!” idea . . . I’m sure that people felt the same way about the printing press when it was replacing handwritten books. I have used one for almost a year now, and to compare the first touch screens to the modern various is unfair and gives me an excuse to write the author off as a luddite.
My personal experience is that there is no comparison. The ipod/iphone (most of all the iphone) is a hand-held computer, the zune is attempt to dominate an obsolete market of single (or limited) function devices.
If MS intends to take on Apple in the small device market, they are going about it bassackwards by taking on the market Apple already dominated and has left behind.
Hey Bundt,
I can feel your pain, I too have been the guy in defense of what many consider an indefensible piece of hardware (in my case it was defending the GameCube against all my friends who had PS2s).
I have heard nothing but good things about the Zune. It is a classic and classy piece of hardware with some grand ideas going for it. Unfortunately, it is fighting a losing battle against the iTide and will soon be swept out to the MicroSea (I’m losing my metaphor here). I find myself forced to agree with Jack’s analysis and, as a longtime Windows user who is somewhat reluctantly joining the Dark Side (the new MacBook Pros are just too sexy to resist), I have definitely been convinced of the joys of the iPod Touch.
But to weigh in my two cents on the matter actually at hand, I still have and adore my iPod classic 30GB. It’s over three years old, and when I got it it was even refurbished. I just use it for music (seriously, the screen is tiny) but that’s all I ever wanted it for. It’s got a clean, simple interface, the buttons do click quite satisfyingly (I mean, it is called a clickwheel after all) and it sounds pretty great (with pricey off-brand headphones of course)
That said, I think the Zune might be the Dreamcast of the portable media world. It has a lot of ideas that might be ahead of its time and people aren’t quite ready for – subscription-based music and song sharing, for example – but ultimately, like Sega, Microsoft is a company that should probably be out of this game by now.
Its true, Microsoft got into the game too little too late and not enough prep was done before it jumped in.
I remember all to well when the MSN music store closed, which was stupid on Microsoft part. Everyone had to either put it on a portable device prior to its closure or burn CDs. They were coming out with the Zune this time and instead of doing a little more work themselves to migrate the music store into the Zune marketplace, they left it to the music owners to deal with most likely making more work for the collective owners than they would have had to do themselves. Doesn’t scream caring for your customers if you ask me. Atleast apple allows you to transfer your music back to up to 5 computers.
I tried a Zune but found it to be cold and ugly, physically. The user interface was nice, but I preferred the options on the iPod and its ability to have a nice user interface and physical look. Really who wants a media player that was the tone of brown the resembles poop? Mind you, they have since then canceled that model but it goes to show how in sync they are with their marketing base.
When the day comes that they retire this failed attempt I will have my own little hooray in the back of my head, which was put in an article by CNN as being a failures in the last decade. Microsoft got 2 spots there for Zune and Vista and Apple has 0. Microsoft isn’t ready to throw in the towel yet because they dont want to appear weak, especially since Vista bombed so badly.
I looked at the Zune HD until I realized it’s fall backs. There are too few games available. The HD only works with an HD output device and doesn’t have HD on its own screen it would only take up more space. Plus the minority of people who own one, make the social part of it only nice to the anti-social since you can only listen to a song three times. Atleast the huge majority of iPod owners makes it easier to share among friends; go to my one friends house … Oh you have the new Lady Gaga CD & I can have a copy until I restore it (or put it on the flash drive part to have it forever once it is put on my computer) and then go to another and get a copy of a season of Family Jewels they either downloaded illegally or bought off of the iTMS.
I have had an ipod and a zune. And I hated them both.
They were incomplete in different areas.
The biggest blackhole for both was the lack of support for FLAC and Ogg Vorbis codecs. Both are free of licensing hangups.
I have had the best performance and support from meizu. http://www.meizume.com
They are a parts maker for many player manufacturers and make their own. Using it as a plain usb storage device makes it much simpler.
Sorry to not take part in the ipod v zune religious war.
Kelly: I’m sorry to have to break this to you but there are in fact a large number of fully functional three legged tables in this world.
Out of all the points from either side, especially the ones Kelly brought forth despite some questionable references towards other posters … is that really the best counter argument you could provide? Really? Come on you must be joking! And you still wasted the time to post it Papa? Please go play in traffic and earn your rightful Darwin Award and save the oxygen for someone deserving of it. Next time please try to add to this feed constructively instead of just picking the only one that would cause you to think the least.
Sorry I would prefer a company that has had good media players for 8 years now compared to 2 1/2 years for the Zune. And the lopsided market of who has more in their store, models/colors of players, accessories, bundled deals with other companies, general popularity and sales. It just seems the longer and harder the Zune side argues their view the poor they look. If we presented this article to every Zune and iPod owner out there, you all would be drowned out by our blissful & harmonic tune.
I’ve owned a Zune from Day One, and I love it. I owned an iPod before that and was soooooooo glad to be rid of iTunes’ tyranny.
My word Kelly, are you the Kelly from “Clerks 2″?
Anyway, I had always hoped Microsoft would throw the full weight of themselves behind the Zune. I mean, the XBOX was a pretty good shot at gaming but the way they have turned around the XBOX 360 is like a Juggernaut. I have to admit, I have had many iPods and 2 iPhones but if the day comes where the Zune is “where it’s at” for me then I will definitely own one and be happy with it. Right now, it just isn’t offering me much but in due time it just might pull a come from behind win and wow the crap out of me enough to snag one up.
If you love iPod, good for you, if you love Zune, good for you, Sansa or any other player, you get the idea I’m sure. What matters most is your happiness with your product of choice not what bias people cram in your face. At the end of the day it is all about what suits you best. My personal hope is that MS gets off their butt and really delivers something truly exceptional to pry away some marketshare so the whole world of portable music players isn’t just referred to as iPods forever. But hey, as long as Apple keeps doing their part and wins then so be it.
Yes it is called a click-wheel cause it clicks.. BUT GUESS WHAT YOU CAN TURN THE CLICK OF IN SETTINGS..
GEEZE people read a manual or play around with your device and discover it..
apple>crapsoft
I Love My Zune.
Haven’t owned an IPod. Probably never will.
Sure, there aren’t lots and lots of accessories out there. But a $3 1/4″-to-RCA cord can work wonders.
MadMup Tyanny: a tyrant carries modern connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population which the tyrant governs or controls. Well since Apple has been pretty receptive to its customers and even has feedback options on Songs, Artists, Albums, Movies, TV Shows & Applications, not including their feedback site, user forums or surveys they will use to see how customers feel about the product and the service they provide I am having a hard time seeing how this word can relate to Apple in any sense at least in the aspect of iPods and iTunes. Bottom Line: Try to at least know what the word means before you use it since you couldn’t even provide examples either, dont use it because you think it makes you sound smart.
As for Chris who thinks the 360 a Juggernaut which means is a term used to describe a force regarded as unstoppable, that will crush all in its path. Considering your Juggernaut is reported as being dead last after 130 weeks of sales at 18 million, being beaten by PS2 & 3, Gameboy Advance, DS and Wii (which sold each 22, 31, 38, 43 and 50 million units each in order). I would like you to also grab a dictionary before you use words that make you sound like you know what your talking about. Let me know when the 360 crushes everything in its path, then maybe, just maybe I will buy one … or get a Wii like I play with my friends instead since you don’t have to pay a monthly subscription just to play online.
Epic win for iPod lovers, we can argue with intelligence while the Zune side brings emotion and half-truths.
Wow, way to sound like an utter @$$hole. Funny thing you mention an epic win for iPod completely ignoring the fact I said I own numerous iPods and iPhones. If you want to bring up PS2, a previous generation or a Wii which in my opinion is just not that much fun then that is cool. I however, never once said the XBOX 360 was number 1 to 1,000 if you read my post (which may be difficult having your head so far up your own self righteous @$$) again. My opinion is when it comes to the system, it is simply on a mission and things in it’s way will have competition. Sorry that makes you sob as an opinion different than yours must be dismissed and shot down at all costs. You people that so viciously defend your views make me shake my head. WTF is your issue that opinions of others must be crushed beneath yours? Last I checked you have opinions on “what you like”. The debate wasn’t who is #1 it was what someone prefers. That difference is a sin? LoL, pathetic… Oh and I apologize if this is written poorly, I’m using my iPhone 3G S to type this.
Oh, and Nick, one more thing. Get your facts right when you spout your BS.
http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2009/05/18/game-consoles-april-2009-npd-sales-figure-analysis/
Ah Chris, does someone one get a wee bit angry when they hear an argument that counters their own. intelligently? Or is it the fact I didn’t kiss your royal ass (look it CAN be written without the at symbol … what was your grandma watching you type?) when you stated you owned one? Sorry, I am not a stockholder.
And I used facts and you flipped your lid, I really hope that iPhone screen doesnt get cracked by your Roid Rage because if so, prepare yourself for an out of warranty call;
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3712
This link is from an article that covers a 130 weeks in sales, whereas yours covers April 2009. period. That is 4 weeks to 130. Also, my article was published in late May and yours was a week before so mine chronologically (see I can use BIG words & use them for what they actually mean), can you find an article from last week to prove your point? I don’t want to bother trying but at least I used an article that didn’t use one bloody month. Oh and don’t blame the iPhone for your poor writing skills I was making fun of your word use, not your grammar. I find it hard to believe the iPhone would have inserted the word Juggernaut when you really meant to type Joke.
mine chronologically* is more accurate … see I can write a 2nd note after the fact just as well as you … and I am not spouting bs, just an article that takes from a wider range of time since yours is so narrow and inaccurate. Now go get all mean and green big fella and we’ll see if I can still out do you, which is becoming a trend at this point :P
I had two zunes before my ipod touch my first 40 gig one lasted 5 years or so and i loved it, i got a blue zen vision, it was about a year and a half old, about 6 months of actual use. I tend to use a smaller mp3 player for walking around. It craps out on me….after numerous emails about what I can do to get this fixed, they keep replying to just buy a new one. I bought an ipod touch after that, at least if it craps out on me for no apparent reason I can take it to apple and speak to a real person. Although i do hate the itunes.
:D
*but ultimately, like Sega, Microsoft is a company that should probably be out of this game by now*
Yet, unlike Sega, Microsoft has other sources of income that allows them to pour money into projects such as Zune, or even the 360 when it was being sold at a cost early in its release. I feel they’re not going to back down anytime soon, even if sales are low. I hope that they keep fighting an underdog fight. I hope my article gives some sort of legitimacy to their attempt at what I find to be a very decent mp3 player.
I tend to stay behind on MP3 players myself. I lasted with a Sansa for years before I just recently (like two months ago) got a good deal on a 1st gen 30 GB Zune refurb.
I’d seen my share of iPods, never particularly cared for them, over complicated and felt flimsy. And then there was the hell with my teenage stepsister trying to share a song with her friend and being unable to because of DRM nonsense.
I was hesitant to get the Zune, but it was 80 bucks so I couldn’t really lose and it was way more space then my Sansa.
Honestly I have to say I like it. Solid construction, straight forward, no nonsense. It plays music. Ta da. Exactly what I expect a MUSIC player to do.
I like the simple menu, and the artwork display. I enjoy the minor things like pausing if I unplug my ear phones, easy song recall and decent battery life. Music transfer to the device is relatively easy, though I really wish I could transfer them through a file browser rather then the software. I hesitate to use any registry hacks to enable this, but I’m so use to doing it that way with my Sansa.
So probably to each his own. I am glad there is someone competing with Apple, competition after all keeps products innovative.
Wow! so much to say. Here’s my take on having owned / dealt with numerous players (ipod, zune, sansa). I for one can’t stand it when a company builds something and then feels it’s their god given right (because they feel they are god) to force everyone to use their software to use their product. Apple made this mistake with Ipods early in the game, and eventually realized people hated them for it, and changed their tune (no that wasn’t a pun). Sadly Mirco$oft didn’t learn from the path trodden by their Apple forerunner and have made the same mistake.
As for the players themselves I think the Zune Rocks. While I’ve personally never used the WiFi, I have used the Radio to great success (drive in Theater here I come). The massive screen makes it almost (almost!) nice to watch a movie on which I’m Sorry Ipod screens you can’t see enough of. Lastly the construction feels much better on the zune, much more solid.
Now if we pontificate on the software behind the products we again hit an impasse. Per my above statement I think they both fail miserably, but Itunes whoops Zune software’s butt. Personally the sooner I can scrap both ideas for Winamp the sooner I’m a happy man. Itunes is a massive resource hog, and Zune software is completely unintelligible. ’nuff said.
The Sansa would be a great idea if they could give it a great capacity without approximating the price of Zune or Ipods(this goes for other generic players) otherwise their ease of use is rather enlightening, although their construction is also inferior to Ipod, whose construction is inferior to Zune.
Now as for you Kelly, I’m surprised with you. For all your touting of intelligence and requesting higher IQ’s and fewer personal attacks, you’ve certainly impugned your veracity by promptly performing a personal attack on Nihil! While you raise fantastic banners towards the great limitations of Microsofts Zune, you seem to forget that every point you have brought up is the exact argument the other direction for Mac vs. PC war. Now for one who has “prolly” never owned a Zune you certainly had a lot to say to decry or at least cast doubt on it’s usefulness. Sadly you had no actual experience with the Zune to speak of, and so had to resort to suppositions wherein your strongest statement was that you were “sure there were limitations”. So please if you’re going to rant please educate yourself and don’t be guilty of the very things of which you accuse others.
End statement: I agree wholly with Ran Kailie – to each his own. Personally I’ve enjoyed the Zune’s functionality and organization, while I’ve despised the controlling software and Microsofts inability / unwillingness to let Zune sync with any other software. Ipods are trustworthy, but the actual players ability is a little more limmited. Sansa’s and the like (at least what I’ve experienced) make them great for syncing with any player, for a slightly cheaper price, but they suffer for want of better construction and larger capacities, and until Zune and Sansa pick up on what Apple has already discovered (as far as interoperability and construction) Apple will continue to dominate the market.
I didn’t read every single comment, just skimmed here an there, because you see, its 4:40am and I still must finish some school work for class. But anyway, thought I’d ask whats up with people saying the 360 is behind in sales?
Actually its sold double the PS3 in America. Of course its behind the wii. The wii was something new, and inexpensive, but sales have dwindled for the wii now that the novelty has worn off. Yes, sony sold a shit ton of PS3s last month due to their price drop, but 360 is still leading them in all countries except Japan. (no surprise there)
Microsoft out the game like Sega? Some people must be living on another planet where the 360 isn’t the gamer’s game system of choice.
But here on earth, it is.
Ok I have been fixing building computers and writing my own software since 1984. As for the Vista problems everyone talks about if ppl was not trying to install vista on 5 or 10 year old computers they would not have the problems they do i have 3 vista pcs running and 2 windows 7 boxes running and guess what not a problem with any of them most ppl kids mostly use {myspace facebook and my year book]get most of there problems from sites like that every time my wife go’s to myspace or facebook i have to fix her computer because of all the crap downloaded with the apps and other crap you can use on them sites. to me them sites are just away for hackers to infect ppls computers with crap And im so sick of mac pc mac pc get over it everyone has there on taste in computers i my self love my 3.6 ghz quad core intel box i built myself i have 4 gigs of video memory though 2 ati crossfired video cards and 8 gigs of kingston gaming memory with all the C.O.D and other top games i get 190 fps in online mode with god knows how many ppl playing online no lag, sweet plus i can upgrade my pc unlike the mac’s you by wow you can add memory big deal plus its funny all the mac heads out there know that mac uses intel now but each to his own if you ask me. P.s. as for all the ipods i get in for repair apple leaves it to the customer if their hardware dies. The only time apple stands by ipod is if it is a software problem.
one more thing i forgot to say bet most of you didnot know know ipod’s software hooks to your web browser and printer why should a misic player need to hook to your printer ?